This is the second installment of our All Time Teams by position lists. This list proved quite a bit more tricky than our chapter on catchers as there have been several great players throughout history to man first. We also stuck to our two main rules for putting these lists together. First, we don't use players before 1920 unless a special exception for greatness. The only player that seemed possible pre-1920 was Cap Anson. Due to the great number of first basemen in history, he wasn't a big enough exception. The other rule states that a player must have played 75% or more of his games at the position. So you won't see players like Frank Thomas, Stan Musial, Ernie Banks, or Jim Thome as they played other positions or DH that pushed them below the 75% threshold. We will be doing a team of guys that didn't qualify because of the 75% rule. Here's the list.
1. Lou Gehrig
2. Albert Pujols
3. Jimmie Foxx
4. Hank Greenberg
5. Johnny Mize
6. Jeff Bagwell
7. Eddie Murray
8. Willie McCovey
9. Steve Garvey
10. Orlando Cepeda
The three of us independently pick our lists and then compare, contrast, and debate until we get it down to 10. All three of us had the same top 8 names just in different order. Gehrig was consensus number one with 2 MVPs, and additional six times in the top 5 MVP, a Triple Crown, a .340 lifetime average with 493 homers and 1995 RBI. The second spot was a flip flop for us between Pujols and Foxx. Both have 3 MVPs to their credit and also mesmerizing numbers. Pujols already has a line including 520 homers, 1603 RBI and a lifetime average of .317, and he just turned 35. With a few healthy years, he could get into some really rarified air. Foxx was widely considered the best right handed hitter of his day and amassed 534 homers, 1922 RBI, and an average of .325. Like Gehrig, he also won a Triple Crown. Greenberg and Mize don't quite have the impressive numbers of the first three, but there's a big reason for that. Both war heroes, Greenberg and Mize missed between 3 to 4 seasons due to World War II. Both were around 30 when they left for war, and their seasons from age 30-33 would have been highly productive ones. Greenberg still won 2 MVP awards and Mize was top 5 in MVP voting 4 times. Bagwell edged out Murray and McCovey in our minds due to higher batting average and on base while playing in far fewer games. He was a staple of the Killer B's and among the most feared hitters of his day. Eddie Murray is one of 4 players to have 3,000 hits and 500 homers (Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, and Rafael Palmeiro). Murray was 8 times in the top 10 MVP voting as well. McCovey blasted 521 homers and drove in 1555 in his stellar career. The last two players were debated with Garvey and Cepeda taking the spots. Both won MVPs, racked up 2300+ hits and ended with averages over .290. Others considered for the last two spots were Todd Helton, Keith Hernandez, Palmeiro, Mark McGwire, and Don Mattingly. Palmeiro and McGwire were quickly dismissed due to the obvious PED overtones that plagued their careers. Hernandez and Mattingly both won MVPs at first and they took home 11 and 9 Gold Gloves respectively. No one could argue they'd be at the top if defense alone was the standard. Helton was another great choice, but playing in Coors took some wind out of his sails numbers-wise. He was a hits machine, sporting the most doubles of anyone on our list, and had he stayed healthy, he might have made 3000 hits. Let us know how your list would differ and who you would have added.
1. Lou Gehrig
2. Albert Pujols
3. Jimmie Foxx
4. Hank Greenberg
5. Johnny Mize
6. Jeff Bagwell
7. Eddie Murray
8. Willie McCovey
9. Steve Garvey
10. Orlando Cepeda
The three of us independently pick our lists and then compare, contrast, and debate until we get it down to 10. All three of us had the same top 8 names just in different order. Gehrig was consensus number one with 2 MVPs, and additional six times in the top 5 MVP, a Triple Crown, a .340 lifetime average with 493 homers and 1995 RBI. The second spot was a flip flop for us between Pujols and Foxx. Both have 3 MVPs to their credit and also mesmerizing numbers. Pujols already has a line including 520 homers, 1603 RBI and a lifetime average of .317, and he just turned 35. With a few healthy years, he could get into some really rarified air. Foxx was widely considered the best right handed hitter of his day and amassed 534 homers, 1922 RBI, and an average of .325. Like Gehrig, he also won a Triple Crown. Greenberg and Mize don't quite have the impressive numbers of the first three, but there's a big reason for that. Both war heroes, Greenberg and Mize missed between 3 to 4 seasons due to World War II. Both were around 30 when they left for war, and their seasons from age 30-33 would have been highly productive ones. Greenberg still won 2 MVP awards and Mize was top 5 in MVP voting 4 times. Bagwell edged out Murray and McCovey in our minds due to higher batting average and on base while playing in far fewer games. He was a staple of the Killer B's and among the most feared hitters of his day. Eddie Murray is one of 4 players to have 3,000 hits and 500 homers (Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, and Rafael Palmeiro). Murray was 8 times in the top 10 MVP voting as well. McCovey blasted 521 homers and drove in 1555 in his stellar career. The last two players were debated with Garvey and Cepeda taking the spots. Both won MVPs, racked up 2300+ hits and ended with averages over .290. Others considered for the last two spots were Todd Helton, Keith Hernandez, Palmeiro, Mark McGwire, and Don Mattingly. Palmeiro and McGwire were quickly dismissed due to the obvious PED overtones that plagued their careers. Hernandez and Mattingly both won MVPs at first and they took home 11 and 9 Gold Gloves respectively. No one could argue they'd be at the top if defense alone was the standard. Helton was another great choice, but playing in Coors took some wind out of his sails numbers-wise. He was a hits machine, sporting the most doubles of anyone on our list, and had he stayed healthy, he might have made 3000 hits. Let us know how your list would differ and who you would have added.
